Danielle Tarjoman, FNLP if someone comes to me and they haven't done a My Michael lab, that's the first thing we're gonna do, because blood doesn't lie, right? As far as urine testing goes, that is what your body is excreting. these tests are only testing mycotoxin metabolites. They're not testing the actual mycotoxins themselves. And a lot of the times we will get false negatives on the urine test because let's say detox and drainage pathways aren't open. You know, people who have MTHFR, MTFRR, or any of the like detoxing genetic predispositions, they are not able to detoxify those mycotoxins as well so it'll be a negative test but they are dealing with mycotoxins internally. And then when people do have let's say a positive result there's a very small amount that could be detoxing from your body but the majority of what's being excreted comes from food and drink. it's not typically going to be coming from your internal colonization and that's a big piece that people miss,
Aubree Felderhoff: Welcome to Mold Free Mom, where we cut the confusion and break down what it really takes to heal from mold illness. Whether you're dealing with unexplained symptoms and no real answers, or you know mold is your problem, you've done everything right, and yet you're still not better. This podcast is for you. I'm Aubrey, and I spent 12 years struggling with mold toxicity. before finally learning why nothing was working. Mold wasn't my only problem. Not knowing how to heal from it was. This is where guessing ends and real healing begins. Let's get started.
Aubree: Welcome back to Mold Free Mom. I am so excited to introduce our guest today. this is Danielle Tarjaman. she is a functional health practitioner and founder of Mold Men, where she helps people recover from mold-related illness and chronic inflammation. After experiencing mold toxicity herself, She dedicated her career to helping others uncover hidden environmental causes of chronic health symptoms. Danielle specializes identifying mold exposure, calming immune dysfunction, and guiding people through personalized recovery plans. She works with clients nationwide and collaborates with prescribing physicians to support comprehensive healing. Danielle's mission is to help people reclaim their health and mend what toxic mold tried to take. I love it. Welcome, Danielle. Danielle Tarjoman, FNLP Thank you so much for having me. I'm so excited.
Aubree: How did you even get into the space? How did you become a functional health practitioner who specializes in mold? Danielle Tarjoman, FNLP Yeah, so. I was affected by mold, surprise, surprise, myself, but for the longest time I didn't know that was what it was. For the longest time I was chasing EBV and parasites and hormones and gut health and all the things. And it was like I was on a hamster wheel, like doing the same thing over and over again, expecting a different result. And, you know, isn't that the definition of insanity or something like that? So, but my husband is a chiropractor. I've been in the holistic space since 2000.
Aubree: Thank Danielle Tarjoman, FNLP seven and I decided I wanted to work alongside him and do something that was complimentary but at the same time learn to heal myself. So that's when I got into functional nutrition. I also went and got certified in muscle testing so I do what's called quantum nutrition testing and then Fast forward, I met Dr. Andrew Campbell in our parking lot of our chiropractic office and I was knee deep in my healing journey and I was very frustrated because I kept hitting a wall and it could never break through that threshold and I was so frustrated and it was like a little angel in the parking lot, you know? But we kind of got to know each other. I invited him to a medical professionals event and I asked him to speak at it and so he spoke and my mind was blown and I was like there's no way I missed mold all this time and I knew deep down inside when I saw his presentation that that was a missing piece for me. So I took his test, I was positive, I had colonization, I also had current exposure happening and as I went through the program with him he kind of took me under his wing and he trained me and that's where I am now and I think the biggest thing I've learned is mold is the reason for a lot of things. And so if you lead with mold, all the other things will work themselves out. Or you can focus on those things at a later time. mold is the biggest issue at hand most of the time. And so that's why I was like, yes, I'm helping people detox and heal from other things. But what I really want to focus on is mold because it makes the biggest difference.
Aubree: not coincidence, right? That he was in the parking lot. Was he coming to get a chiropractic adjustment or how did that? Danielle Tarjoman, FNLP ⁓ Yeah, well, you know, so my Michael lab is right next to our office. So he was leaving and he was getting in his car and he's like, are you the new neighbors? And I'm like, so nice to meet you. I actually,
Aubree: a blessing that that is a God ordained appointment. Danielle Tarjoman, FNLP there's only been a few times in my life that that's happened. But that is like, that's part of my prayer every day is thank you so much for connecting me. Because not only for myself, but now I get to help so many people. And that is so rewarding. You know, I hear horrible stories and, the person that I first meet and then the person that they become after they've been on this program, whatever program that might might end up being is completely different. It's like they get a second lease of life, you know, and so rewarding. So I thank God every day for that blessing.
Aubree: That's amazing. I use Dr. Campbell's protocol as well. And I love that you were trained directly under him. I think that's phenomenal. ⁓ because he's really considered one of the Danielle Tarjoman, FNLP Yes.
Aubree: foremost experts in mycotoxin LMS. I he's been doing it for decades and has toured all across, not just the country, but internationally and spoke and written textbooks and medical studies. I mean, he's done it all. So what did training under kind of his wing change how you would approach someone as far as testing and treatment? Danielle Tarjoman, FNLP think the biggest thing is just knowing that leading with mold is gonna make the biggest impact on someone's health journey because it's tied into so many things. You you lower the immune system for mold, you're more susceptible to secondary bacterial infections, parasitic infections, EBV gets reactivated, Lyme gets reactivated, right? I think that was the biggest takeaway is like, start with mold, because it's gonna make the biggest difference. The other thing I noticed in muscle testing is mold likes to hide in the body. And when I got training with Dr. Campbell, and I'm sure you know this, he calls it the great masquerader, right? So it likes to mask itself, disguise itself as other things in the body. And so when I would muscle test myself or go to a muscle testing practitioner, mold would never come up, but it's on the way that you phrase your question, right? So we could say when you're muscle testing someone, what is affecting the body? Well, it might say that EBV is affecting the body or parasites are affecting the body, right? But what you need to ask if there's any muscle testing practitioners out there listening is Is it hidden or is it hiding in the body? And is it a priority? Because when I changed the wording of my questions for muscle testing, it came back positive and it came back as a priority. So that was a big learning point for me. I was like, my gosh, now I know to ask these questions. I muscle testing, but ultimately I think the biggest thing as far as mold goes and mold testing goes is doing the MyMyco lab. I mean that right there, gives you so much information. It gives you information on the total body burden, what the body's dealing with internally on a day-to-day basis. And it's also giving us what the body is being exposed to externally on a day-to-day basis and how the immune system is involved and colonization. know, it's not going to tell you where the colonization is, but if you have high levels of IgG, you most likely have some colonization somewhere in your body. The three areas you can be colonized are your sinuses, your lungs, and your gut. And really it's like you go off symptoms, right? Or do you have sinus issues? Do you have lung issues, breathing issues? Do you have digestive issues? So if you have those types of symptoms, chances are you're colonized, right? So I'd say those are the three biggest takeaways and the way I've changed as a practitioner. as far as the training he's given me.
Aubree: Mm-hmm. I love the mycotoxin lab and I am a huge believer in it because of what it tells you. To piggyback off of that, I do have a question because I know so many people and I was one of them in my first decade of trying to heal. I've done other tests such as the urine mycotoxin test or the standard mold allergy test that the primary care physician is going to give you. Can you explain the difference on the mycotoxin testing that you're Danielle Tarjoman, FNLP Thanks. I know.
Aubree: talking about the blood serum mycotoxin testing versus some of the other tests out there and why it matters for someone that's actually trying to get answers. Danielle Tarjoman, FNLP Yeah, so when someone comes to me, chances are they're gonna have a ton of testing with them. I don't discredit anything because I feel like each test can give us a little information, right? But if someone comes to me and they haven't done a My Michael lab, that's the first thing we're gonna do, because it's super, super important, because blood doesn't lie, right? As far as urine testing goes, that is what your body is excreting. Right? So, and the other thing is these tests are only testing mycotoxin metabolites. Right? They're not testing the actual mycotoxins themselves. And a lot of the times we will get false negatives on the urine test because let's say detox and drainage pathways aren't open. You know, people who have like MTHFR, MTFRR, or any of the like detoxing genetic predispositions, they are not gonna be able to detoxify those mycotoxins as well so it'll be a negative test but they are dealing with mycotoxins internally. And then when people do have let's say a positive result you know it could there's a very small amount that you know could be detoxing from your body but the majority of what's being excreted comes from food and drink. Right? So it's not typically going to be coming from like your internal colonization and that's a big piece that people miss, you know, and some people don't even believe in internal colonization. feel like that's the whole reason people can't get better if they don't address it, you know.
Aubree: ⁓ I've been molded, I guess, twice. But in our first house, we moved. I should have gotten better. And I did get better just from being in clean air. But I never healed. I was probably 70%. And I really didn't heal until I tested with the MyMycotox Lab and recognized, I'm colonized. Like all of these things that are happening. And I kept doing the gut health stuff. And I kept doing the sinus stuff. And it wasn't budging. It didn't matter what I did. And I... Danielle Tarjoman, FNLP Yeah.
Aubree: tend to think I'm pretty healthy. I swing very, very crunchy, if you will. It did not touch it because I was colonized with mold. It goes back to mold, you know? Danielle Tarjoman, FNLP Right? That's totally my story too. I'm very crunchy, very holistic. Like I couldn't even remember the last time I took an antibiotic. So when I had to, you know, I took his test and he told me what the treatment was. I was like, no, heck no. There's no way I'm going to take that medicine. But then it's like two months go by, you're the same. Three months go by. And I'm like, okay, Danielle.
Aubree: ⁓ huh. Danielle Tarjoman, FNLP You know, this meant this ultimately what I told myself was the mycotoxins in your body are doing more damage than any medication would. And you've been living with these since you were a child. You know, this was from my grandmother's house. That was my exposure. My bedroom was right next to a root cellar that would flood five, six, seven times in a year. we would see visible mold and they would just use bleach, you know? I was dealing.
Aubree: Yep. Danielle Tarjoman, FNLP dealing with like notable symptoms from like when I was 14 or 15 years old until 36. So I got myself better doing things, know, the crunchy. I call myself crispy now. Crispy is the new word because you know, there's a time and place for protocols like that, you know? So until I did his program though, I was never able to break through that threshold, that 70, 80 % because of the colonization and then, no.
Aubree: ⁓ gosh. Krispy. Danielle Tarjoman, FNLP I am where I am now.
Aubree: So do you think that people that are like us, that maybe they're not in a moldy environment and they're certain of it, and yet they still have these lingering things? Do you ever see success without doing antifungals in those situations? Is there a crunchy, crispy way to address that? I never found it, and I tried for over a decade, Danielle Tarjoman, FNLP Mm-hmm. Yeah. Yeah, Not really. I mean, there's some really good supplements. Like I'm a big fan of systemic formulas. They have really great mold, antifungal, like herbals. But I did them, you know, and even, even my mold clients, like I worked with all sorts of clients with different things through the muscle testing, but with my mold clients, they were the same. And I feel like a lot of those herbals just aren't able to get in as deep as the medication is, you know? One thing I am playing around with right now though is, I'm more curious for myself. I mean, I feel great, but I'm still, always learning new things. Like I love to like optimize my health or, you know, prevent myself from, if I do have another exposure and it not adding to my toxic bucket. So I'm very hyper aware of that. So I'm big in doing maintenance programs, like after they're done with the pro, which I think we're to talk about here in a second, but peptides.
Aubree: Yes. Yes. It is emerging and amazing, isn't it? Danielle Tarjoman, FNLP Yes, it's so cool. I'm obsessed. Yes, yeah, I'm very, very excited about it. Very excited.
Aubree: So have you been using peptides, I guess, on yourself as well as science and seeing good results? Danielle Tarjoman, FNLP Yes. Yes. Yes. it's incredible. even, mean, cause they're really just supportive in nature. Like that's what they're just reminding your body what to do, what it's supposed to do. so even utilizing it, think with Dr. Campbell's program is super helpful, but then once people get to maintenance, you know, if you have a lot of, ⁓ immune issues, like getting on TA one, is super helpful at just supporting and like remodulating your immune system, you know, to make sure that it doesn't fall back into.
Aubree: Right. Danielle Tarjoman, FNLP those old habits, right? And a lot of it is that just cycle that sometimes, and a lot of it ties into the nervous system too, right? The nervous system kind of is that trigger that can start the snowball effect. But yeah, I've really been enjoying playing with peptides.
Aubree: Yeah. Yeah, that was actually one of my nice questions is as far as maintenance, when you get to the other side of mold and you have clients that get there, what can someone do to prevent exactly as you said, prevent this because mold is inevitable. Now, hopefully we're not living in it again, but we're going to come across it in so many different buildings. And so how do we as someone that has been through this and kind of has the trauma response and all of the memories, you know, in our body, how do we prevent this from happening again? Like if we go on vacation, I've done that. Danielle Tarjoman, FNLP Right. you Yeah.
Aubree: and you walk in and you smell must and I'm like, no, you know, is there something you recommend to people that can help them to detox? Danielle Tarjoman, FNLP year. Yeah, so that was me this past weekend. I went to Savannah and I walked in. It was a bachelorette party. It was so fun and I was not going to be that person. I talk about mold all the time and they already think I'm crazy and so I was like, I'm not going to be that person to make everyone get out of the room, but I'm like, I can smell it, you know, and I've always had a very strong sense of smell. So and I actually look at it as a blessing now because it tells my body like, okay, we know that there's mold here.
Aubree: ⁓ gosh. Right? Danielle Tarjoman, FNLP let's get out, so that's a bonus for me, but other people might not be able to say the same. I know Dr. Campbell's not the biggest fan of binders, but I do believe as maintenance and preventative, they can be very, very, very helpful, especially for people who are predisposed to be sensitive to mold exposure. But there are certain binders that I don't like because they can rid your body of all the good stuff too. So like the activated charcoal and the bentonite clay, the colostiramine, those to me are not my favorite. I'm particular with the binders that I use that they're very specific with what they can bind to, right? So I like zeolites and then really any of the cell core binders are great because they're very specific with what they can bind to. So I'm a big believer in maybe not being on it every day, but maybe once, like one week during the month going on some binder to kind of keep up with that toxic load or if you know that there was exposure, maybe go on a binder for a week. And then the other thing is huge, like just supporting your immune system. Right? So that's where that TA1 comes in, that peptide. And then supplements. So vitamin D, vitamin C, all the, you know, all the immune supporting supplements, anything that's going to support the gut is also going to support the immune system. have 70 % of your immune system is in your gut, right? So making sure you have a really good gut protocol or like maintenance, like probiotic. and digestive enzymes and but this is the other thing you can take supplements till you're blue in the face but if you have any issues with your gut, being able to absorb it, they're kind of, it's, you know, kind of an issue, right? So that's what I like about the peptides. You can get a lot in your body and support your body in different means without it having to go through your digestive track, a lot of the time when you're having digestive issues, it's most likely mold colonization and that's a whole other thing you need to get started on the protocol. But maintenance, I would say just supporting the immune system. nervous system is huge. Nervous system regulation is so important. I'm a big fan of primal trust. If you want to do something easy and at home. I've recently recently learned about brain spotting. Have you heard of that? Yeah, so I I'm really curious about that because you know, I feel like out of everything for me, the nervous system is still something that I struggle with. You know, that's I think just with
Aubree: Mm-hmm. I haven't, no. Danielle Tarjoman, FNLP you know, growing up and having whatever childhood I had and then just the different experiences that I've had and then going through learning about like how to heal myself and there's just a lot of, know, life is traumatic. So I think, yes, and it's so easy for your immune, or sorry, your nervous system to get stuck and have those ruminating thoughts that do not serve you and keep you stuck where you are. And so training that and
Aubree: And then you add mold. Danielle Tarjoman, FNLP being aware of it, think is super important because I could have gone to that bachelorette party and I could have spiraled, but I didn't. I made the best of it. I'm like, this is going to be a great vacation. I'm going to be fine. When I get home, I'll take binders and I'll support my immune system. I might take a little bit more of my, you know, TA1. So I had a game plan, but I definitely think those are probably like the three areas for maintenance that are most important.
Aubree: Yes. I think you hit on something that I've never considered, but I know for me going through the journey, especially the first time, I didn't have a game plan because you're so overwhelmed and you have no idea what's going on. And just like you said, you're tackling your candida and you're tackling your chronic fatigue and all these other things. And then you finally found out mold and you're like, I don't know how to do mold. It feels like a never ending and having a game plan gives you some feeling of autonomy. Danielle Tarjoman, FNLP Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
Aubree: over the situation. Yeah, which ultimately we all know we're not in control, you know, but it helps to feel like you have some ability to help yourself that feeling of not being in control and having no control over your future. feel like for me is what spins my nervous system completely out of control and that going back to that nervous system regulation, it gives you something you can do. You can't always control. couldn't control having mold brought into my house during Danielle Tarjoman, FNLP Right. Yeah, right. It's so important. Yeah. No, right. No.
Aubree: a construction project. You know, I couldn't control it. I couldn't control how my body responded, Danielle Tarjoman, FNLP the nervous system is huge. And I recommend looking into brain spotting. learned, ⁓ you know her, her name's Sammy. She's in our group. So learn about it. It's incredible. She did like this whole technique with me, you know, just to give me an idea of how it worked. I was just totally...
Aubree: Yeah. Yeah. Blown away. Danielle Tarjoman, FNLP It was really cool. highly recommend looking into it.
Aubree: I would have. Yeah, yeah, I'm a big geek on that, but I was someone that when I moved from our first home, I did not get well. In fact, I felt like I got worse for about a year and a half. And I did some other protocols that made me worse. And I quit all of them and I quit all the binders. And I just did a brain reprogram. It's DNRS, which is very similar to Primal Trust, but Primal Trust wasn't around back then the first time. And so I did DNRS and it changed my life in ways I had no idea I even needed. Danielle Tarjoman, FNLP I know. Yeah. Yep. Yeah.
Aubree: to change, know, besides just mold. Oh, was, yeah, it was, and it's all something you could do for, I think it was like two, $300 for me to learn how to do it, you know, it's an online course I could teach myself. And then I have that tool forever and I use it frequently because yeah, I walk in a mold often and I'm like, oh no, you know, and then I have to use my tools and I'm fine, Danielle Tarjoman, FNLP Yeah, I know. It's powerful. It's so powerful. Mm-hmm. Yeah. I know. Yep. And one thing I tell my clients is like, you can't let mold control your life. I know you want it, like you want to be able to make decisions off of it, but you're going to be living in a bubble. Like what kind of life is that? You know? So it's like, if you can at least calm your nervous system and
Aubree: fail. Danielle Tarjoman, FNLP Talk yourself down. you're going to be a lot better because a lot of the time, like I said, it snowballs out of, out of control. It's like you start thinking negative and then, and then more and more and more. And then you're just like spiraling out of control. Right? So it's like, what can I control? I can control my thoughts. I can control my breathing. I can control the way I look at the situation. Right. It's all perspective. So, yeah, the nervous system is huge though. It's often the biggest piece that's missed in protocols.
Aubree: the end. I agree 100%. It's so overlooked and so, so vital. I feel like you can do all the things. You can eat the right way and you can even do medication. But if your body is in constant flight and fight, it's not in a healing position. It's not going to heal. It's going to be focused on protecting you from this perceived danger and your body. It's not made to be running from a tiger and stop and heal. know, it's just not. Danielle Tarjoman, FNLP No. Yeah, exactly. No, they're two separate. They're on the complete opposite spectrum.
Aubree: Yes, yes. So on that do you see is the number one mistake that people make when it comes to trying to recover from mold? Danielle Tarjoman, FNLP Definitely the nervous system. That was like a perfect little, you know, then I would say the environment is huge. It is the biggest piece of the puzzle.
Aubree: Okay. Yeah. ⁓ Danielle Tarjoman, FNLP A lot of people want to skip that step because they're so eager to heal, but you cannot heal in an environment that's making you sick. And when I first started the program, I rushed it and I felt awful the first month and it was because I was still being exposed. So, when people aren't getting better, it's three things. The environment, typically number one, number two, nervous system. And number three is going to be sinuses because the sinuses are their own microbiome.
Aubree: Mmm. Danielle Tarjoman, FNLP And so even if you don't have symptoms, you're asymptomatic, as far as your sinuses go, you could still potentially have colonization in there.
Aubree: even with no sinus symptoms whatsoever. Danielle Tarjoman, FNLP Yeah, yeah, and so I've noticed my clients Let's say they're at the four-month mark and they're just not as far as I'd like, you know And they're certain that their you know, environment is clean. They've been doing nervous work nervous system work I'm like, let's just try the amphotericin B. So obviously they have to get that prescribed through their provider and It makes a world of a difference because you have to think the sinuses are right there and you have an olfactory bulb. That's like a conveyor belt directly to the brain, right? So it's like mycotoxins, if they're there, going straight to the brain. So yeah, it's huge. ⁓
Aubree: Mm-hmm. and then going down from the brain from the sinus area into the gut. And yeah, that's just going. Danielle Tarjoman, FNLP Everywhere. Yeah, it's first. Yeah, the brain is the first place it goes and then the second place is the gut typically that mycotoxins effect
Aubree: Mmm. And how long, I know it's a range and I know it's going to depend, but what do you typically see as an average range for length of treatment? Because I know some of the protocols I've been on in the past, I literally was told by doctors, this is a three to five year recovery road and it's going to cost you hundreds of thousands of dollars. ⁓ And it was ridiculous, ridiculous and terrifying as a patient when you're already strapped for money and paying all your... you're sick? Danielle Tarjoman, FNLP Yes. That is screwed. Yeah. and you're already stressed. Yeah.
Aubree: And yeah, I learned so much from Dr. Campbell as to what he says about that, what is accepted. But I want to know from you as a treating practitioner, what do you see as an expected time range for treatment? Danielle Tarjoman, FNLP Yeah, right. I would say six to eight months is the average. Dr. Campbell says six but typically what happens like the first month or two is maybe they start the protocol. Maybe they do have a little bit of side effects or like increase in symptoms. So they feel like they have to go a little bit slower, right? Or maybe they found more mold in their environment and they have to address that first. So I would say six to eight. The longest I've seen someone on the full program though, was like 10 months. And that's because something was missed.
Aubree: in the environment or the nasal or. Danielle Tarjoman, FNLP environment, yeah, nervous system or the sinuses. ⁓ Yes, yeah.
Aubree: So going backwards, going out of the order of what you recommend obviously is gonna elongate that process, it sounds like. Danielle Tarjoman, FNLP Yes. Yeah, Dr. Campbell says if you don't do the vitamins and the diet and you don't address the environment, it's going to take you 18 to 24 months to get better. You don't want that. Plus you don't want to be exposed at the same time. You know, like that's very confusing to your body, very confusing to your nervous system. Your nervous system's already, you know, stressed out and then you're like trying to give it this medication or whatever treatment you decide to do but you're still inhaling it and it's all around you all the time. It's very confusing. You know, your body doesn't know what to do. It's just too much. Yeah, for sure.
Aubree: Right. Yeah, it's an overload. okay once people are completely finished You have them go on a maintenance program, and then if they were to come into another situation, unfortunately with mold would they just then Repeat all of the program Danielle Tarjoman, FNLP Mm-hmm. I compare. our toxic load to like a bucket. I'm sure you've heard this analogy, right? So there's so many things that go into this bucket, heavy metals, chemicals, mycotoxins make a huge part of the bucket, right? So while you go on this program, you're essentially dumping out this bucket. So when you're done with the program, there might still be some toxicity left, but it's not going to be mycotoxins. It's going to be other things. And that's when maybe we address those at a later time, like the heavy metals or chemicals or whatever it is. so you're Your bucket is essentially empty now. Maybe not empty, but it's a lot less full than what it was before, right? So you have exposures here and there. You're not going to have the same reactivity. You shouldn't have the same reactivity because your bucket is not overflowing like it was before, right? But if you don't go on a maintenance program to help with these exposures here and there, that bucket eventually will fill back up. Right? And then at one point it could start overflowing again. So that's why I feel like it's so important to do maintenance. What I'm planning on doing and what I've done because it's been, I'm always thinking of different things, right? My mind is always going. But to do Dr. Campbell's program once a year, but just for a month as like maintenance.
Aubree: Okay, yep. Danielle Tarjoman, FNLP Right? So get on the ITRA con is all get on the amphoteric and B because I know my body is susceptible to these exposures. And yes, I'm doing a good job at supporting my immune system and you know, taking care of whatever exposure that I know I'm having by doing the binders and stuff like that. But if there is anything that ends up getting inside and deciding to set up shop in my house or in my, in my body, right? Like as far as colonization goes, I know that doing this program for a month will be very effective. Like You don't have to be on it for the full six months, especially if you're doing it every year as kind of like a maintenance. So that's one thing. That's a huge question I get from people who are wanting to do the program is like, when I'm done with this, am I going to be as reactive to not only mold, but to chemicals, right? Like people walk by Bed Bath and Beyond, they can barely breathe and they have an instant headache. Like, is that going to be gone? And the majority of people, it is gone because that toxic bucket has been emptied out. So I'm big on maintenance and just preventing. That's like my whole mindset from being married to a chiropractor is like, not prevent instead of dealing with an emergency, why don't we prevent the emergency? And so we have you go through the program and then when you're done with it, then we get you on a good maintenance program. Because the last thing you want is to be back where you were before.
Aubree: Yeah, and as people are coming out of the program, my assumption is that they're doing much better. Like you said, that toxic bucket has come to a reasonable amount, where there's probably not empty. I don't know that we're ever empty of toxins, but yes, I think it's impossible, but it's at a reasonable level to where a little bit here and there is not gonna hurt you, and then your body's able to do what God made it to do, which is to filter those toxins out. Danielle Tarjoman, FNLP Yeah, right now, with how toxic our world is. Yes.
Aubree: ⁓ But I'm assuming that even at the end of the treatment protocol with you, there's still healing that happens on the back end, right? Like the toxin bucket empties and then or lowers, and then the body's able to start repairing with the use of peptides and other things. But do you see healing continuing maybe months later? Danielle Tarjoman, FNLP Yeah. Yes. I do. Yeah, actually. So let's say someone's done with the program. And that's actually another thing. My Mycolab, the test, I've even seen someone like retest at the six month mark and it's improved, but it hasn't been, it hasn't gotten all the way down. Right. And then they retest again in six months and it's down even farther. Cause you have to remember like the chain of events. You have the mold that creates the mycotoxin and then the body creates the antibody, which is what we're testing for in the blood test. Right. So, I see not only do their symptoms get better, so let's say that they finish the program and they're like 85 % better, 90 % better, they continue to get better because it takes a while for your body to process any additional mycotoxins or like you said, you start on like more reparative type supplements or even peptides and it's like just this perfect little combination. You killed the mold and now you're, and you actually, supporting the body that whole time too with those supplements. that he always talks about. But then when you get into the maintenance, you're supporting your body in so many other ways that I see even more healing, like continued healing. And then when they retest, it's like their antibodies just keep coming down.
Aubree: even though they're not necessarily treating anymore, it's just the natural effect of the body healing itself. Danielle Tarjoman, FNLP Right. Yep. Yeah. Yeah. The body is amazing. And it will do what it's designed to do if you give it what it needs to.
Aubree: Yes, that is so true. just need, I remember hearing that from him. If it's not doing what it's designed to do, it's because you're not giving it what it needs. And it was like, ⁓ that makes so much sense. Like I've been doing the wrong things. And as soon as I switched and followed what he said, I got better after years of doing all the other things. Danielle Tarjoman, FNLP Yeah. That's true. Yes. Yep. Right. Yeah. I know. That's amazing.
Aubree: Well, this has been super, super helpful. I've learned so much from you and I know my audience has benefited immensely. So I would love for you to share a little bit about how they can contact you. Danielle Tarjoman, FNLP Thank you. Yeah, so anyone that just goes to my website, there's a lot of information on there, That's the easiest way is my website, which is moldmend.com.
Aubree: Danielle, it has been just a pleasure and an honor. So thank you so much for coming on. Danielle Tarjoman, FNLP Thank you. Thank you. I appreciate you.
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